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Village of Soglio Hiking in the Swiss Alps - John 6:3    And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his disciples.

Thursday, July 17, 2014

The Words do matter!

I'm in the midst of trying to understand and communicate the meaning of some verses in 1 Timothy 2.

1Ti 2:4    Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1Ti 2:5    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


Joh 14:6    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the lifeno man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


1Ti 2:6    Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


As my research gains fruit look for a post discussing this.
I started briefly down this path in yesterday's post, on John 14 and 6. See.....


Deep Doctrine in the Gospel of John





For today though, this verse stood out.


Php 2:6    Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:


The ESV misses the power of these words when it translates.... 

Php 2:6    who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,


The whole sense of stealing God's glory is missed. In one way this relates to the sovereignty or will of God, which you can see in the following verses. And also will be a key part of the discussing in the post on 1 Timothy 2.


John Gill shines some light on this idea, quoted below.



Php 2:7    But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Php 2:8    And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.


Php 2:9    Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:


Php 2:10    That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Php 2:11    And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Php 2:12    Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Php 2:13    For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.


John Gill......
thought it no robbery to be equal with God; the Father; for if he was in the same form, nature, and essence, he must be equal to him, as he is; for he has the same perfections, as eternity, omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, immutability, and self-existence: hence he has the same glorious names, as God, the mighty God, the true God, the living God, God over all, Jehovah, the Lord of glory, &c. the same works of creation and providence are ascribed to him, and the same worship, homage, and honour given him: to be "in the form of God", and to be "equal with God", signify the same thing, the one is explanative of the other: and this divine form and equality, or true and proper deity, he did not obtain by force and rapine, by robbery and usurpation, as Satan attempted to do, and as Adam by his instigation also affected; and so the mind of a wicked man, as Philo the Jew says (i), being a lover of itself and impious, οιομενος ισος ειναι θεω, "thinks itself to be equal with God", a like phrase with this here used; but Christ enjoyed this equality by nature; he thought, he accounted, he knew he had it this way; and he held it hereby, and of right, and not by any unlawful means; and he reckoned that by declaring and showing forth his proper deity, and perfect equality with the Father, he robbed him of no perfection; the same being in him as in the Father, and the same in the Father as in him; that he did him no injury, nor deprived him of any glory, or assumed that to himself which did not belong to him: as for the sense which some put upon the words, that he did not "affect", or "greedily catch" at deity; as the phrase will not admit of it, so it is not true in fact; he did affect deity, and asserted it strongly, and took every proper opportunity of declaring it, and in express terms affirmed he was the Son of God; and in terms easy to be understood declared his proper deity, and his unity and equality with the Father; required the same faith in himself as in the Father, and signified that he that saw the one, saw the other, Mar 14:61 Joh 5:17. Others give this as the sense of them, that he did not in an ostentatious way show forth the glory of his divine nature, but rather hid it; it is true, indeed, that Christ did not seek, but carefully shunned vain glory and popular applause; and therefore often after having wrought a miracle, would charge the persons on whom it was wrought, or the company, or his disciples, not to speak of it; this he did at certain times, and for certain reasons; yet at other times we find, that he wrought miracles to manifest forth his glory, and frequently appeals to them as proofs of his deity and Messiahship: and besides, the apostle is speaking not of what he was, or did in his incarnate state, but of what he was and thought himself to be, before he became man; wherefore the above sense is to be preferred as the genuine one,

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